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Network design and engineering has almost zero overlap with systems administration, which is why there is so little networking content on Server Fault. Search for terms like "Cisco" and "router" there and you'll find very few questions and even fewer answers. This is because the very name of the site, Server Fault, implies that its focus is on systems ...


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I believe this topic is broad enough and specific enough it deserves a separate site. Questions about specifics of "deeper" embedded programming usually fall on deaf ears when asked on StackOverflow, or are met with answers from users clueless about it (suggesting a JBOSS solution for a tiny embedded ARM9 platform?) There are subjects that go entirely ...


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Maybe thats your answer. When you say most people have a 51 reputation score and no other accounts its because most Networking People don't use the site because Server Fault doesn't provide adequate coverage of the topics that I work with like routers, ASA firewalls, ToR Switches and so on...


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Networking topics are explicitly on topic on Server Fault. From the FAQ: If your question is about… Server and Business Workstation operating systems, hardware, software and virtualization Enterprise storage, backup, and disaster recovery Network routing, switches, and firewalls Operations, maintenance, and monitoring There are a decent ...


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Topics can frequently fall under multiple sites. For example, many proposal sites would be on topic for StaockOverflow but break off in to their own more specific communities. I don't think people working in gamification are always UX people either. In fact, most of the people we talk to about it focus more on business processes, ROI, and analytics. The UX ...


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Sometimes less is more. I'm sure that not everyone would agree, but ardweenies [tm] would dilute the quality of a serious embedded systems board. Their numbers are sheer, questions tend to be basic, attitude tends to be naive, preliminary research tends to be lacking. Would an embedded systems designer want to answer "what shield should i buy?" questions? ...


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To Warren and Renan I am one of those low rep individuals that you are speaking of and to be honest, I had never heard of Stack Overflow or the Stack Exchange network of sites until Jeremy Stretch brought it up on Twitter. Our field of networking is quickly becoming more involved as a community and I think this site would be very beneficial to help others ...


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I'm an EFL (English as a foreign language) teacher, and I've noticed that there's a huge difference between the language interests and perspectives of native English speakers/highly fluent people and English learners. There are different views of what is "correct," different perspectives on what is most useful, etc. I haven't seen too much on ELU that's ...


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Viewing the top rated questions, and considering Academia is expressly open to questions about research in industry, government, etc. I'm inclined to agree - Open Science is a subset of the type of questions that are already accepted in Academia.SE, and I don't think either community will particularly benefit from splitting them off.


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I work at a major University. We have a systems group and a network group for a reason. They are different disciplines. The network is more than the switch port. At Server Fault I'd expect someone to talk about creating trunks for VMs. maybe some VPN remote access methods. In Networking I'd expect to find answers on Layer 3 VPNs, dual hub single cloud ...


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Trends within the SMB market lead to a lot of "folks with many hats" types of roles. There is nothing wrong with that, and some folks prefer that route. In that realm, the concept of system administration typically also envelops the networking infrastructure - thus, your routing/switching infrastructure, your SAN, your IP telephony system, etc. The ...


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I think the best test of this would be to re-post some of our example questions to ServerFault and gauge the quantity and quality of responses. In my opinion SF includes networking in-name-only. Questions like the recent "When multicast client has obtained the first data packed (pim sparse) and switched to SPT, what happens when another multic source ...


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This proposal goes beyond serverfault, since it doesn't deal just with storing data, or accessing data... Some questions here could be fitted in stackoverflow, some in stats, and probably some won't fit anywhere else.


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I am at 51 rep as well so probably not going to get a lot weight behind this response, but there is a huge difference between a true network engineer and your IT generalist who happens to plug a few switches in or configure a firewall via the GUI. There is years upon years of expertise that goes into becoming the caliber of engineer that can design large ...


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Yes I think so! Firearms never made it out of beta the first time. Or the second or third times either. Weapons is a bit more broad, and so we'll be able to share our knowledge, and our userbase.


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If it has a hard drive in it, i am not interested in it.. i am wanting a community to discuss Cisco enterprise routers, switches, Cisco IOS command help, and certifications. Server fault does not address any of these. The above subjects are the only reason why i would frequent stackexchange. If this "networking" does not go through, i will not have a reason ...


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I'm a new "low rep" member here on stackexchange.com as well. I also heard about this proposal as a result of a tweet by Jeremy Stretch on twitter. I'm interested in Cisco (and to a degree Junos and other competitors) networking questions and answers. I just took a look at the Server Fault section mentioned above and see absolutely zero overlap in topics ...


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I suspect that an Embedded Programming and Design site would have very similar problems to the ones that Robotics is currently having. It too is a site which brings together elements of Stack Overflow, Electrical Engineering, adding in elements of Mathematics, GIS, Computational Science # and mechanical engineering as well as things which are highly ...


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I agree. The questions are interesting but can be asked on academia SE with more chance to get good feedback. I get the feeling this proposal and its following is more about promoting open science than about the Q&A aspect.


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I cannot say for sure that we would never merge the current (largely successful) crypto-coin sites, but at this juncture, it DOES appear that that ship has sailed. The current crypocurrency sites (along with the up-and-coming proposals) are so successful. This is an existential problem with how we scope Stack Exchange sites versus trying to create subjects ...


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This is something I struggled with, and I came to the conclusion that while there are some aspects of embedded systems that are covered by Stack Overflow, and some that are covered by Electrical Engineering, there are also aspects that are covered by neither site. EE.SE is centered around electronics and has a difficult relationship with software. While the ...


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At http://english.stackexchange.com if you try to ask a question that is considered basic, it will be closed or you will get heaps of minuses. I am very careful when asking there. People who do not know English well yet, need MORE help, not less. So, this site could even become much more popular.


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I'd love to see somebody argue the other side of this, if they feel it's worthwhile, but here are my reasons for why I don't think there should be programming language specific stack exchanges: Stack Exchange has never allowed proposals that would steal significant traffic from an existing site, which this clearly would. You'd almost need to migrate all of ...


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I like this Idea. It makes the site broad enough to have a wider audience and allows us to get a larger range of interested parties. As long as we don't get copyright infringey and call it the Venusian arts!(I know there will be a few people to get that reference) So I say yes, broaden it out and call it social arts. It has a nice ring to it!


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There is certainly going to be overlap, just as there is overlap between Stack Overflow and Programmers. There are expats and immigrants who travel and there are expats and immigrants who don't travel. There are travellers who are expats or immigrants and there are travellers who are not. Just because you are an expat and have a programming question doesn'...


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I agree with todofixthis, but want to stress again, that living in a place is something completely different from traveling. The personal goals are different, how it affects your life is incomparable, and the actual realization ends in different results. Some different issues: lodging vs. renting getting vaccines vs. actually going to a doctor regularly ...


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Mainly in response to Nick's answer: Don't forget, shopping questions (i.e. what shield should I buy) are off topic on any SE site, with some beef up however that question would be fine on this site. Also, The quality of users you describe and the questions they would also be poor for any SE site, Arduino, EP&D, or otherwise. You want the core site to ...


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There's no reason to expect that any proposal should ever replace an existing launched, healthy network site. EE.SE has a proven user base and track record to justify its continued existence, plus it covers some topical areas that wouldn't belong on a general Engineering site. There's also no reason to require that we reduce the scope of this proposal to "...


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Okay, I don't know what happened. This was closed and now the proposal was reopened. On with it: Just to make it clear: I think the network engineering field and the server administration field have no real overlap. They have well defined intersections but no network engineer would identify with a site like "ServerFault" and so this site will never attract ...


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