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Traditional localization typically entails offering one site, where the 'chrome' (or user interface elements, help text, prompts, etc) is available in multiple languages. As I looked into how other sites were offering support in multiple languages, this was the predominate way to do it. Many still have the 'countrycode.domain.com' available for search ...
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Yes the up votes and down vote limits per proposal on Area 51 should match. This related question from Jan 2014 (I just found it) seems to indicate that those expressing a preference, prefer to match limits.
The argument is made at the related question, that matching these would deviate from the standards at Stack Exchange.
I disagree, on Stack Exchange ...
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Good news! — We tweaked the process a bit to avoid closing proposals soon after starting a new phase… and without adding any undue complexity.
Instead of a 2-year limit, we are now going to institute proposal limit of
1 year in Definition + 1 year in Commitment
This 1+1-year method takes care of two important scenarios — (1) You don't ...
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I'd went even further and suggest, that the limit of the downvotes should equal the number of used upvotes.
Voting on example questions has other purpose as voting on the launched sites. Here I use votes to say, which question I'd like to see on the site, and which I wouldn't like to see.
Saying what I'd like to see is more important, so the upvotes should ...
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If you have specific concerns about a proposal, you should voice them in discussion. Those discussions are read and considered before a proposal becomes a site (assuming it gets that far). But having a network of users vote on which ideas don't interest them is not at all what Area 51 is about.
The creation of Stack Exchange sites is a democratic, ...
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Yes. Any editors which are part of the vi ecosystem (especially if they share an ability to use the same commands, configs and plugins) should be included.
On the other hand "vim inspired" editors or ones with "vim modes" which only share some skin deep items but are really their own kettle of fish might be better served on other sites along with editors ...
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I see this SE site as supporting the vi text editor community, including associated clones.
I don't believe that text editors which simply support vi hotkeys or vaguely vi-like features belong here. I also don't think applications that aren't text editors should be included.
Examples of what belongs:
vi
vim
gvim
nvi
neovim
Examples of what doesn't ...
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I don't think the speed concern of MathJax is an overwhelming one.
We will be in beta for several years if other betas are anything to go by; and by the time the traffic is even a fraction of the primary Stack Overflow site I believe the performance of MathJax library will have been improved as MathJax is an active project with rendering speed as roadmap ...
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Fully agree. See for instance this question:
https://mathoverflow.net/questions/182923/consistent-price-index/184376#184376
which is about economics. How much sense would it make without MathJax?
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The Area 51 process was derived from our Q&A core code, so I tend to treat requests to remove a proposal much like we do in Q&A.
Essentially, if a question proposal has no additional content, you are free to removed it. But once users start putting their efforts towards the development of that idea… the proposal becomes part of collective ...
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No, a site based entirely on a survey of user opinion — and similar ideas soliciting alternative content — aren't currently a good fit for a Stack Exchange Q&A site. Apart from the technical considerations, the primary reason we don't currently host "public opinion polls" and various alternative uses for the Stack Exchange engine is the ...
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I am against having a beta flag.
Answers should stay valid for a longer time and such things can change fast. Many programs are labeled beta, but behave perfectly stable (many Google applications for a long time). Others are considered stable but still buggy (a lot of proprietary software shortly after release). There are also programs that worked fine once,...
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Ideally, a "commitment" should be considered fulfilled the moment they meet that criteria, and they should retain that status regardless of how the site/private beta ultimately does. Their commitment has been fulfilled.
For users who haven't (yet) fulfilled their comment when a private beta shuts down, that data should just be discarded. We simply do not ...
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I wonder about yet another option:
Votes on questions that have score of 10 or more don't count towards the 5 upvotes limit.
That way we get the best of both worlds and more:
People won't feel they "lose/waste" their votes on questions that are already above 10. They can still differentiate between best questions and ones "marginally fitting". We'd ...
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Area 51 is run on a separate system from the rest of Stack Exchange; Area 51 Discussion runs on the old version of the regular Meta Stack Exchange system.
The "new user" helpbox was added relatively recently, after the change made in the rest of the network.
As such, adding the helpbox to Area 51 would take further development work, which has already been ...
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This has been discussed before countless times on Meta Stack Exchange:
Why isn't providing feedback mandatory on downvotes, and why are ideas suggesting such negatively received?
Encouraging people to explain downvotes
Such a policy would not be enforceable and it doesn't solve the problem.
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Note: I put in a feature request to have that changed to 10 questions/day (pending dev approval) [UPDATE: The number of questions/day has been changed to 10!]. That (revised) number is based on a scatter plot of all our sites and where they seem to fall when the site becomes "rock solid" in their category.
No, that does not mean that <10 questions per ...
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This has been tried before, with Programmers Stack Exchange, and failed.
Initially, Programmers was supposed to be a place for non-programming-related questions asked by programmers. This was a useless mess and quickly got repurposed to pretty much what you describe: a place for subjective questions related to programming. Over time, guidelines evolved to ...
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This unravels a general discoverability problem inherent to what Area 51 is about. On the one hand, you want your example questions to show there's enough unique content to justify the creation of a new site… yet you don't want these (hypothetical) cross-site closures to become an all-out moratorium against every question which just happens to be on ...
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Quoting from What's going on with Area 51? (thanks Robert):
The gist of it is "it works well enough for the site proposal process, and we have a lot more higher priority work to do on Q&A + other projects".– Anna Lear♦
In short, it's so hardly un-updated that it's not worth the time and effort to improve it, since it somehow works. Maybe they're ...
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In the current version of Area51 the 5 question limit should be maintained. While I have often wanted to write more than 5 questions on a proposal, the limit makes sense.
The question writing goal of Area51 is two fold, define the site AND validate there a good likelihood of having sufficient content to sustain a site. Optimal each question writer would ...
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I'm not sure that lengthening would really help the situation much. The level of activity of each proposal can vary and you don't want to have a situation where 5 people with close vote permissions close an example question despite broader community support.
Honestly, it really kind of seems that close votes don't make much sense in Area 51. Each site is ...
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I think this only becomes a problem if people use these revotes on questions that do not really belong to the proposal -- as long as you pay attention to the quality of the questions and not merely vote on any question to get its number to ten, you're not really subverting the purpose of the voting system; the questions that get the new votes are good ...
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Stack Exchange will not make a map for you.
In exactly the same way that it will not do your homework, it will not act like your doctor and lawyer, it will not make your visa application, it will not translate your document into or from any language, and it will not write your programming code.
If you want a job done, pay for a professional. If you want to ...
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I feel your pain, in previous times I have lost 1000+ rep overnight. But there are more important and easier things like Roberts circuit breaker and Notifications for closed proposals that are not getting dev resources. Your idea is moderately complex and only impacts a few devout Area 51 followers, so it is unlikely to gain dev resources
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The most difficult part of launching a successful site is finding a community large enough to make it work.
Minimum number of people for a successful proposal
We can't simply lower the numbers to host smaller subjects. The minimum requirements to launch a successful proposal were set by looking at the performance of thousands of failed proposals and the ~...
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I agree that it makes little sense to close a proposal that has only been in commitment phase for a few weeks. If the closing of 2-year-old proposals is supposed to be to avoid proposals that aren't viable, then something that took nearly 2 years to get to commitment phase should have been identifiable as not viable a while ago.
With that in mind, I propose ...
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If you hover over the questions per day number, it will tell you with the title text:
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Thank you for the suggestion. Your idea has merit, but the Area 51 system is in the sunset of its development so we will not be adding additional features/badges to this system until a next-generation system has been developed. You can read the latest on the future of site creation here:
What's going on with Area 51?
It is highly unlikely that a next-...
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Look at all these duplicates in English and in this same site:
Why not just add localization to the existing site?
Is really needed to define a site which is the same as StackOverflow but in different language?
and I could go on forever.
Directly addressing your points:
Comparing programming languages with human languages is... mind bending. Those who ...
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