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Proposal: Islam

Greetings.

An hour ago I cam across this site: islam.com

It looks too close to this proposal, and to the mechanism of StackExchange network sites (as Q&A sites). I think it will be a bad idea to have two semi-identical sites, this will result in losing the concentration of people, i.e, the community will be split and we will lose too much of the benefit we seek from this site.

So, I suggest two approaches to prevent the defragment of community and keep the max benifit:

  • Either the site and the proposal to be merged, how? This I'm not sure about, it needs solutions.
  • Or close this proposal and direct people committed to it to the site.

If there are other solutions, it'll be great! I just wish this problem to be solved.

Thanks in advance.

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Stack Exchange has no association with that site. It's a clone of the basic Stack Exchange website, but is not part of the Stack exchange Network. It would not be possible to merge or redirect users from that site.

  • Although goldPseudo's answer explains much of the idea, I still like to ask: couldn't there be any safe attempts to fix this duplicate? Safe means it guarantees that StackExchange shouldn't bear any overheat, since I really realize the fact that the other site cloned StackExhcnage in such a bad way that may really annoy StackExhcange (as it did for me). – Tamer Shlash Apr 17 '12 at 23:57
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    @Mr.TAMER I'm not sure what you are asking us to do. A third party created this site we have no control over. The only way not to create another site is to kill the proposal. We are not inclined to do that. – Robert Cartaino Apr 18 '12 at 0:04
  • So am I. The better place will rise after all, as did Stackoverflow before. – Tamer Shlash Apr 18 '12 at 0:10
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Right now, the site (islam.com) is not something I would want to frequent. Whereas the StackExchange proposal process attempts to build a strong expert community before the site itself goes live, islam.com seems to have skipped that step and went live as soon as they could. As a result, it just feels like an islamic Yahoo! Answers with a StackExchange mechanic.

This may change in the future, but right now I can't see experts flocking to any site with a weak community and poor quality control. A site like this would need momentum to really take off, and they've barely started rolling downhill.

As Robert said in the StackExchange blog:

Area 51 is designed to build up momentum for a site prior to launch. On opening day, hundreds (soon to be thousands) of people pile in to ask and answer questions when the site first opens. So when someone asks a question, it gets answered… quickly.

They might be worth keeping an eye on as our proposal gets closer to public beta, and if they have built up a decent community we can work on how to either merge or to peacefully co-exist. But as of now, there's still a very open question of if they'll even be around (in the same form) if and when we do go live.


Addendum

I tried the site out for about a week, and I stand by my assessment; experts are unlikely to flock to the site as it currently lies. It is barely moderated and most active users can't seem to tell the difference between a StackExchange-like Q&A site and a typical internet forum; voting is infrequent, comments are frequently posted as new answers, and downvoting anything is discouraged. Nothing like the type of expert-oriented Q&A site I'm expecting from this proposal.

It takes a lot more than superficial similarities in software to make a high quality Q&A site.

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    After trying out the site for a couple of hours, I agree with you that the site is not a good Q&A site that would ferments quality discussions about Islam. However, I think we could learn what went wrong with the site that stifles discussions and try not to replicate it on the Islam SE. – Ibrahim Arief Apr 27 '12 at 16:06
  • @IbrahimArief: I contend that the single biggest problem that the site faces is that there isn't a large active community that knows (or cares) how to user-moderate everything. Right out of the box, the Area51 proposal process will guarantee at least a hundred committed users who have (at least some) experience on other SE sites, which will make a huge difference. – goldPseudo Apr 30 '12 at 22:53

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