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I'm asking the question here since apparently Area51 doesn't have meta.

I dont agree with some "question" (it is more of a suggestion than a question) created as discussion at Area51. I wanted to downvote it as a sign of disagreement, as it is done here on meta. But do the downvotes at Area51 also work this way?

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  • @AbbyT.Miller Meta questions about Area 51 are supposed to land here, though. A51 Discuss is more for discussing proposals than the site itself, if I recall. – Adam Lear♦ Dec 2 '11 at 2:34
  • @AnnaLear Good to know! – hairboat♦ Dec 2 '11 at 2:43
  • Actually, Robert Cartaino specifically said a few weeks ago that A51 questions are off-topic at MSO now that A51Discuss exists. Looking for the post now.... @AbbyT.Miller – Pops Dec 2 '11 at 2:54
  • @PopularDemand aHA! Migration ho? – hairboat♦ Dec 2 '11 at 2:56
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    Ah, here it is. @AnnaLear this time. – Pops Dec 2 '11 at 2:59
  • @PopularDemand Funnily enough, the FAQ Robert is quoting doesn't mention meta questions about Area 51, but I guess I stand corrected nonetheless. :) Migration incoming in 3, 2, 1... – Adam Lear♦ Dec 2 '11 at 3:13
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Down-voting here is equivalent to down-voting on a meta site: You down-vote a question because you disagree with it.

Actually, the discussion site is for Area 51 what for other SE sites is a meta site; that is the reason why "area51-meta" is a tag used in this site.

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  • thanks! ....... – TMS Dec 2 '11 at 2:06
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    This is no longer true; see my comment under the question. – Pops Dec 2 '11 at 3:06
  • @LordTorgamus, I see no explanation in your comment under the question! The downvotes to this answer should be explained. What is the correct answer then? – TMS Dec 3 '11 at 9:48
  • I'm referring to the 1st paragraph of this answer – TMS Dec 3 '11 at 9:50
  • Sorry, what I meant was that "Meta Stack Overflow is the meta site for Area 51 too" is no longer true. I figured that would be clear on its own in the context of the comment, which links to a post that basically says "MSO is no longer the meta for A51." @TomasT. – Pops Dec 3 '11 at 18:10
  • @kiamlaluno, Robert Cartaino, the official head of the Stack Exchange community coordinators and the unofficial head of A51, explicitly stated that "Meta.SO is not for questions about Area 51" (emphasis original). Yes, this is a change from the previous policy. The only reason there aren't more bug reports here is that most other people, like you, are unaware of the change. But that doesn't mean the change never happened, or that it's invalid. – Pops Dec 3 '11 at 18:28
  • @kiamlaluno, indeed, but that post is older, and the entire point of the newer post is "things have changed." I am not disagreeing with this answer, and I am not your downvoter. – Pops Dec 3 '11 at 19:22
  • @LordTorgamus and others, I'm confused now. Is this sentence true: "Down-voting here is equivalent to down-voting on a meta site: You down-vote a question because you disagree with it"? This was the primary thing I was asking... – TMS Dec 3 '11 at 20:32
  • @TomasT. Down-voting here is like down-voting on any other meta site; in fact, this is the meta site for Area 51. – kiamlaluno Dec 3 '11 at 20:35
  • @kiamlaluno, this is the meta site? But we are discussing proposals here, like here! So this can't be meta, but the "content itself". It starts to be confusing... – TMS Dec 3 '11 at 20:38
  • @TomasT. No, it's not the content; the content (proposals) is area51.stackexchange.com, and discuss.area51.stackexchange.com is the meta, where you discuss about the content of area51.stackexchange.com (the proposals). This is what happen in an SE 2.0 site: on drupal.stackexchange.com you ask questions, and on meta.drupal.stackexchange.com you ask about the questions you can ask on drupal.stackexchange.com. – kiamlaluno Dec 3 '11 at 20:44
  • @kiamlaluno, these "meta" are of course clear, but the situation at Area51 is not clear to me. Look here - page for The Great Outdoors proposal. There are 3 questions (below announcements), like Would The Great Outdoors inlude sport shooting?... these define the future site so I consider this being a "content of Area51", not "discussion about content of Area51"! And all these 3 questions are in the discussion zone. – TMS Dec 3 '11 at 20:54
  • @TomasT. What you find under "Announcements" are links to questions here. What I said is still valid. They just link to some relevant discussions about the proposal in the proposal page. That is exactly what happens on an SE site, where you can see a list of links to questions asked on the meta site. – kiamlaluno Dec 3 '11 at 21:04
  • @kiamlaluno, but these questions do not discuss how the Area51 should work, but discuss proposals, which is (IMHO) equivalent of answering users question at SE site. And this never happens at any meta.SE site. I just want to point out that the definition of "meta.Area51" seems a bit messy and different from usual "meta.*.SE" sites. – TMS Dec 3 '11 at 21:10
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    @TomasT. That is why this site is called discussion, and not meta; it's really something more than a meta site, but if you are looking for the meta site of Area 51, this very site is what you are looking for. Anyway, if you have a question about how Area 51 works, you can ask it here, and tag it with area51-meta. – kiamlaluno Dec 3 '11 at 21:17

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