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Proposal: eosio

I already see questions posted in StackOverflow where there is already an eos tag. Are we duplicating efforts?

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Personally, I think it makes much more sense to have made a blockchain proposal, and made everything else a tag on that site. However, that cat is long out of the bag.

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    I understand your point. But blockchain its too generic, in my opinion. It would be like set all the programming languages under the same proposal. You can be specialist in EOS, and have no idea about Ethereum or Waves. – César Rodríguez Mar 9 '18 at 17:10
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    @CésarRodríguez You mean like this? stackoverflow.com. – Robert Cartaino Mar 9 '18 at 18:45
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    I mean like: ethereum.stackexchange.com or bitcoin.stackexchange.com There are other proposal from other blockchains as well like: area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/115647/stellar area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/110603/iota – César Rodríguez Mar 9 '18 at 22:29
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    @CésarRodríguez - I think what he means is that stack overflow, the busiest and most successful (arguably) stack site is exactly that. All the languages on one site by tags. Java next to ruby next to delphi and so on... – JohnP Mar 10 '18 at 0:12
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    eosio has a lot of different elements and constituents - there will be block producers, Dapp developers, Dapp users, DAC creators and members, token holders using for utility or voting, people hosting nodes, people starting new local or specific purpose chains, people offering extra services on top of eosio etc.. A lot of these groups will not be served well by a generic eosio tag – rob allen Mar 10 '18 at 13:17
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    @roballen - Case in point question Tagged with mysql, .net, entity-framework, asp.net-core, .net-core. This is a much better approach than having a new proposal/site for 15 different implementations of eosio. – JohnP Mar 12 '18 at 16:12
  • @JohnP Although, what you're saying would probably work out, in reality, EOSIO having its own dedicated stack site can better serve the community as a whole without negatively cluttering up a general blockchain stack site which, at least in my opinion, is meant for general questions about how blockchains work. Not for platform-specific questions but, I could be wrong.. – Joshua Shope Mar 12 '18 at 23:24
  • @JoshuaShope - Any argument you raise in that vein can be countered by Stack Overflow. It covers the gamut from general to very very specific, multi platform, multi language. But as I said, that cat is out of the bag, as is trying to convince people that their snowflake really isn't all that special. – JohnP Mar 13 '18 at 0:55
  • It is interesting how the same question was made for the Code Igniter exchange site, and they ended closing the proposal and keep using the StackOveflow tag. I see pros and cons for either options. Area51 process also helps us seeing how strong the community is. If it doesn't survive the proposal, it shows us see where to improve it. – StR Mar 14 '18 at 10:36
  • Also, getting users with high rep is not that easy. Probably using the tag in StackOverflow for Q/A while we get the approval from Area51 helps users with low rep to pump their numbers. – StR Mar 14 '18 at 10:44
  • First things first. If the beta is not active enough, it will be short lived. A blockchain proposal is on its way, and could then appear as the best solution. The EOS proposal is rushing through the Area51 process, which I think is strange, and the beta will show if there is REALLY such a huge community around that technology... – Alexis Dufrenoy Mar 21 '18 at 9:03
  • I agree but I think this (proposal) has more chance to succeed than getting a blockchain proposal site to play well with all the other. SO is obviously not the right place - as EOS or blockchain is not just about the 'programming' and questions we need won't pass there. One of the problems is being able to make suitable rules (relaxed enough) for the model of the problem at hand. I'm also fearing that blockchain or some other general site users will tend to push back or limit the scope or whatever. I have committed on the blockchain one as well though. – NSGaga Mar 26 '18 at 19:29
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    As expected, the beta is a shipwreck, with less than 1000 questions asked in more than 4 months, and an average number of visits per day of ZERO. – Alexis Dufrenoy Sep 18 '18 at 17:06
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OK, confirmed. We do need our own StackExchange network.

This is an example of the How are transactions feeless for end users on eosio? question. Our most upvoded question in our proposal.

It was downvoted because "it doesn't seem like it has anything to do with programming". So, as previously mentioned, there will be questions for block producers, Dapp developers, Dapp users, etc, and they do not fit in the StackOverflow page.

  • What make you think "How are transactions feeless for end users on eosio?" is a good question for a StackExchange Site? I don't know if it is or not, but all questions on all StackExchange sites need to meet the same basic criteria see don't ask The fact that a question does not work on one site, may also mean it will not work on any site. Again I don't know if it is a good question, I am just pointing out there is a logical fallacy in your argument. – James Jenkins Mar 14 '18 at 14:26
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    Also, you seem to keep thinking that I am saying this all belongs on the StackOverflow site. No. I am saying, that blockchain as a technology belongs as one site (BlockOverflow maybe? Whatever], while all of these divisions belong as separate tags on the blockchain site. So your mythical transaction question would be on blockchain (Not SO), and tagged [eosio] [producer] [transaction-fees] or whatever taxonomy is decided on. – JohnP Mar 21 '18 at 14:19
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    Because of all the negative points given to any question or answer, people avoid asking or commenting at all. You can see how nobody interacts anymore instead of using the tool as a way to find solutions. Thanks for the comments but I don't feel comfortable here. – StR Mar 21 '18 at 16:45
  • While your question is not ideal (for SO, it is too general, well not programming related) - nor this one seems to be (stackoverflow.com/questions/49242414/…) - those were the type of questions regularly asked on SO few years back - and helped lot of people. And you have a valid point of people not asking questions (just 2 questions under the tag sort of make the argument). If this proposal makes it maybe the rules could be defined to allow non-programming as well (I mean loads of other sites only have those). – NSGaga Mar 26 '18 at 19:14
  • I seriously think that as SO is a stack exchange site for programming related questions, we need a Blockchain stack exchange site for products and technologies leveraging or built on blockchain. It is already proposed and this eosio can defininetly live as a tag in it. – Parth Patel May 4 '18 at 8:13
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I expect that questions are going to increase after launch, so better be ready with a better system in place than a tag.

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