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Proposal: Web Designing

This site is redundant given multiple other sites, including Stack Overflow, Webmasters, Graphic Design, and UX.

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    Naw, those are all for people interested in the study of website design. This proposal is very clearly for web designingers. – bosco Jan 1 '14 at 7:42
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    Well, Graphic Designers don't always do webdesign. – AwesomeUser Jan 5 '14 at 2:10
  • Probably duplicate of Webmasters, but most questions are either not fit for Q&A or duplicates anywhere else. – Donaudampfschifffreizeitfahrt Mar 5 '14 at 13:16
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    I'd agree that this & Graphic Design should be combined into 1, simply Design. Separating Graphic from Web Design is a bit too specific in my opinion. I think if you start breaking sites down into such specific subjects you'll just start seeing more and more Q/A's getting scattered across sites, people not knowing or not caring which would be most appropriate to post on. – davidcondrey Aug 9 '14 at 2:30
  • Stackoverflow = programming, Webmasters = management, Graphic Design = images, UX = theoretical. This is pertinent and would reduce the "How to use Bootstrap Columns" questions on Stackoverflow – Brian Dillingham Sep 11 '14 at 13:42
  • Good discussion, but IMO this site brings all those together into one relevant and holistic platform. Rather than going to StackOverflow for code, then Designers for design and UX for you know what... – Mooz Sep 12 '14 at 1:18
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StackOverflow is full of millions of questions about all different programming topics. I think a Web Development site would be useful to direct questions regarding web design/development towards this new site away from other sites and keep it all in a place where it belongs. All questions about game programming could fit in StackOverflow too, but there's a reason we have a Game Development site. StackOverflow has gotten way too big and parts of it should be separated.

  • I agree with this, especially the end part. SO has become massive and it would be nice for some areas to become standalone. – Ruddy Jul 22 '14 at 12:18
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Whenever I log in to Stackoverflow, I'm flooded by questions related to Web Designing. Most of the people ask simple JS/jQuery and questions tagged bootstrap are seen almost everywhere. Comments are full of jsfiddles and bootplys, hence I think there's a need for a dedicated stackexchange network for Web Designing.

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    I don't understand. You say SO is full of poor Javascript questions that need a separate site? What has it to do with the scope of Web Designing proposal? – Donaudampfschifffreizeitfahrt Mar 5 '14 at 13:18
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    @Donaudampfschifffreizeitfahrt, most simple web design questions get downvoted on Stack Overflow, with a dedicated website that isn't for programming, they would probably get upvotes and stop saturating Stack Overflow – Brian Dillingham Sep 11 '14 at 13:37
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Think about it.

With Stack Overflow, it's always "ooh! I need help here" or "ooh! I need help there", while all the "best practices" questions are always closed.

With Web Designing, there would be much more of questions relating to best code practices, best website layouts, best color matching and the like, which would not be suitable to Stack Overflow.

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    "best website layouts" and "best color matching" could both go on User Experience. – strugee Mar 18 '14 at 3:39
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    @strugee Well, these problems are not strictly relevant to user experience - they may be performance related, server-related or many other issues - depending on the exact problem. – Lucas - Better Coding Academy Mar 19 '14 at 8:17
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    server related problems would then go on Server Fault. performance problems sound like a problem for Webmasters or Server Fault. – strugee Mar 19 '14 at 15:38
  • @strugee Server Fault handles server-side problems relevant to servers - but when they're code related, that's not something handled by Server Fault. – Lucas - Better Coding Academy Mar 20 '14 at 5:08
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    code related stuff should either go on Stack Overflow or Software Engineering – strugee Mar 20 '14 at 5:24
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Not sure its off topic. I actually found this because I was hoping this would be in Beta. I have a link to a website and I'm curious to know how they incorporated what LOOKS to me like some <div> hover effects but I don't know how to accomplish what they did (changing the text of the div on hover) and so I was hoping to ask web designers about how one would accomplish a similar task.

Asking that on Graphic design isn't going to help because typically that site isn't for coding and they won't know how to write CSS (or shouldn't be giving code-related answers on a graphic site).

I know very well that if I ask this question on Stack Overflow it's going to get down-voted because I don't have the relevant code and I'll have to try and glean an answer from there before choosing to delete it to not humiliate myself.

This would be a great "how might I accomplish _" question for web developers who do this type of thing and would know off hand if that's JQuery, or just a simple CSS hover trick or what.

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    Use chrome dev tools (F12), right click the div and inspect element to see the CSS. One option for that is :before and :after with the content:"write hover text here"; property. Just thought I'd point you in the right direction. Also, GD does take design-related code questions. – Dom Jun 11 '14 at 13:53
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Those are all different things that do need their own separate sites in my opinion. Here is my opinion on the matter.

Graphic Design = don't always mess with code, or web design. Webmasters = deal more with setting up, domain management, and maintaining a website, and not web design. Most webmasters will install themes, not create them.

Just like there is a difference between web designer and web developer. The difference is one is good at web markup, and the other at web programming. I've seen web developers call themselves designers(when they have no artistic talent), and web designers call themselves web developers(even though they do not know programming languages like javascript/php/etc, only how to implement existing pre-written scripts(which is what a web master can do)).

It seems confusing, but it's not. They are all clearly separate things.

Stackoverflow only covers markup & development, but not design. See the difference now?

I do business and offer services as web designer, graphic designer, hosting, or setting-up/maintaining your site(webmaster role). Even though I can do all of that, I wouldn't call myself a developer. Nor would I say these roles/jobs are similar enough to keep it to one site, because it increases the odds of having my questions closed.

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And there's 2 votes to close as of 0853 EDT :)

I don't understand how so many duplicates-of-existing-proposals-and-sites end up getting made.

  • Those close votes have expired. – Donaudampfschifffreizeitfahrt Mar 5 '14 at 13:19
  • @Łukasz웃Lツ - fascinating: close votes shouldn't expire :| – warren Mar 5 '14 at 14:18
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The design side of the web is done by people who may not know javascript or php or any of that. It would be good to have a place where things like "long shadows" and the "look and feel" of a website could be discussed without having a bunch of geeks with reps of 35K tell me my question is too philosophical. Seriously, we are here to help each other. This is not a competition to see who can have the most points.

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    There is such a place. Its called UserExperience. – user88642 Mar 20 '14 at 22:38
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    A "Q&A for user experience researchers and experts" doesn't satisfy that – Brian Dillingham Sep 11 '14 at 13:39

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